1 00:00:05,349 --> 00:00:03,270 wyatt smith he's the chief training 2 00:00:06,470 --> 00:00:05,359 officer not only for our personnel down 3 00:00:09,990 --> 00:00:06,480 here on the ground but also our 4 00:00:13,910 --> 00:00:12,470 now why we just heard from ray 5 00:00:15,509 --> 00:00:13,920 members of this team you guys have been 6 00:00:16,710 --> 00:00:15,519 training for this first orbital flight 7 00:00:19,109 --> 00:00:16,720 for years 8 00:00:20,390 --> 00:00:19,119 so first off you know what what are just 9 00:00:22,150 --> 00:00:20,400 some of the things that you've been in 10 00:00:25,189 --> 00:00:22,160 charge of trying to get the ground team 11 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:25,199 ready for this very historic flight 12 00:00:27,750 --> 00:00:26,160 um 13 00:00:31,429 --> 00:00:27,760 we've been working 14 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:31,439 for about five years on development of 15 00:00:35,990 --> 00:00:33,760 all the training products and simulators 16 00:00:38,470 --> 00:00:36,000 that have gone into the training 17 00:00:40,709 --> 00:00:38,480 so there's been a lot of effort by 18 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:40,719 the simulator development team 19 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:42,719 and obviously the instructors to develop 20 00:00:47,750 --> 00:00:45,760 all the products the classroom lessons 21 00:00:50,790 --> 00:00:47,760 uh to get ready for this 22 00:00:53,350 --> 00:00:50,800 and so this is this is a first so i'm 23 00:00:55,750 --> 00:00:53,360 assuming anytime it's a first a lot of 24 00:00:57,189 --> 00:00:55,760 extra effort has to go in to preparing 25 00:00:58,709 --> 00:00:57,199 the team for something 26 00:01:01,029 --> 00:00:58,719 yeah there was a lot of effort that went 27 00:01:02,470 --> 00:01:01,039 into the development of all the the 28 00:01:04,070 --> 00:01:02,480 products 29 00:01:06,390 --> 00:01:04,080 i was involved very heavily in the 30 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:06,400 development of the simulator 31 00:01:10,789 --> 00:01:08,240 interface that was used the actual 32 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:10,799 simulator is located in dulles 33 00:01:15,030 --> 00:01:13,920 virginia at the orbital facility and we 34 00:01:16,870 --> 00:01:15,040 use our 35 00:01:19,190 --> 00:01:16,880 iss simulation 36 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:19,200 here and interface the two together and 37 00:01:22,390 --> 00:01:21,200 that was a very lengthy effort that went 38 00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:22,400 into doing that 39 00:01:25,830 --> 00:01:24,000 but we were on a pretty short time frame 40 00:01:27,749 --> 00:01:25,840 so we had to do a lot of extra effort to 41 00:01:28,950 --> 00:01:27,759 get that working correctly there was 42 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:28,960 also other simulators that were 43 00:01:31,670 --> 00:01:30,400 developed that the 44 00:01:33,749 --> 00:01:31,680 more small 45 00:01:36,390 --> 00:01:33,759 simulators that the crew would use and 46 00:01:38,710 --> 00:01:36,400 those were also developed in parallel 47 00:01:41,270 --> 00:01:38,720 so a lot of simulator development effort 48 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:41,280 and obviously all the products that were 49 00:01:45,429 --> 00:01:43,439 used to train the crew and the ground 50 00:01:46,469 --> 00:01:45,439 personnel had to be you know built from 51 00:01:49,030 --> 00:01:46,479 scratch 52 00:01:52,149 --> 00:01:49,040 we had a few things to use as 53 00:01:54,149 --> 00:01:52,159 sort of models from like htv or other 54 00:01:55,590 --> 00:01:54,159 vehicles cargo crash wasn't the first 55 00:01:58,469 --> 00:01:55,600 time that we've done things like this 56 00:02:00,550 --> 00:01:58,479 but uh the vehicle is unique uh in its 57 00:02:01,830 --> 00:02:00,560 own way and so we had to 58 00:02:03,109 --> 00:02:01,840 uh 59 00:02:04,389 --> 00:02:03,119 work pretty hard to get all that stuff 60 00:02:06,149 --> 00:02:04,399 complete 61 00:02:09,190 --> 00:02:06,159 okay and you talk you talk a lot about 62 00:02:11,029 --> 00:02:09,200 simulators now the entire team is just 63 00:02:12,710 --> 00:02:11,039 going through you know simulation after 64 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:12,720 simulation of just 65 00:02:15,750 --> 00:02:14,000 everything that could possibly happen 66 00:02:17,350 --> 00:02:15,760 with this vehicle is that what's is that 67 00:02:18,309 --> 00:02:17,360 what's going on 68 00:02:20,229 --> 00:02:18,319 um 69 00:02:20,949 --> 00:02:20,239 well there's a couple different aspects 70 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:20,959 the 71 00:02:31,509 --> 00:02:29,120 um 72 00:02:34,790 --> 00:02:31,519 maybe the last couple hours or maybe 73 00:02:37,030 --> 00:02:34,800 even the last hour of the of the event 74 00:02:38,869 --> 00:02:37,040 and it's really on that focus is really 75 00:02:41,030 --> 00:02:38,879 on their their tasks that they have to 76 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:41,040 perform at that time what is what is 77 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:42,800 what would the crew's task be in that 78 00:02:46,630 --> 00:02:44,640 final those final moments um the crew is 79 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:46,640 responsible since this is a demo mission 80 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:49,360 the crew is responsible for um watching 81 00:02:53,509 --> 00:02:51,120 the vehicle come up what's called the r 82 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:53,519 bar so from underneath iss 83 00:02:56,790 --> 00:02:54,959 they'll be monitoring the vehicle make 84 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:56,800 sure that it's on its correct trajectory 85 00:03:00,790 --> 00:02:57,840 toward 86 00:03:02,869 --> 00:03:00,800 the grapple point and also they perform 87 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:02,879 some demonstrated 88 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:04,800 demo objectives that are 89 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:06,480 where they they pause the vehicle and 90 00:03:10,149 --> 00:03:08,640 make it go away using a command panel 91 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:10,159 that they have 92 00:03:14,710 --> 00:03:11,760 so they have to report to the ground how 93 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:14,720 the vehicle is performing with a lot of 94 00:03:18,149 --> 00:03:16,800 visual aids that they have 95 00:03:19,430 --> 00:03:18,159 and then they actually do the grapple 96 00:03:21,509 --> 00:03:19,440 with the arm 97 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:21,519 the ground personnel are watching from 98 00:03:24,949 --> 00:03:23,680 much further out on the orbital team you 99 00:03:28,149 --> 00:03:24,959 know they obviously watch the whole 100 00:03:30,630 --> 00:03:28,159 entire uh rendezvous and then there's a 101 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:30,640 joint operations phase that occurs 102 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:33,760 uh maybe for the last four hours of the 103 00:03:37,589 --> 00:03:36,159 the flight in which the team here is 104 00:03:38,550 --> 00:03:37,599 heavily involved in monitoring the 105 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:38,560 vehicle 106 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:41,360 and some demo things that happen 107 00:03:45,670 --> 00:03:43,920 but during the simulations uh we we do 108 00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:45,680 all the nominal operations we verify all 109 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:47,360 the procedures are correct 110 00:03:50,789 --> 00:03:49,360 and we also put in 111 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:50,799 i'm the evil guy 112 00:03:55,509 --> 00:03:53,680 so our team gets to put in a lot of 113 00:03:57,350 --> 00:03:55,519 malfunctions and make sure that the 114 00:03:59,190 --> 00:03:57,360 ground team and the crew respond 115 00:04:00,550 --> 00:03:59,200 correctly to what the malfunctions are 116 00:04:02,309 --> 00:04:00,560 you get to try and trip them up have a 117 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:02,319 little we try our hardest to trip them 118 00:04:04,390 --> 00:04:03,200 up 119 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:04,400 you know we have to make sure they can 120 00:04:09,190 --> 00:04:06,720 do all the nominal procedures correctly 121 00:04:10,949 --> 00:04:09,200 but we do 122 00:04:12,630 --> 00:04:10,959 try to put some things in there that are 123 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:12,640 that are helping them learn and 124 00:04:16,990 --> 00:04:15,599 exercising flight rules that we have 125 00:04:19,270 --> 00:04:17,000 so it's 126 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:19,280 it's good to see the you know the teams 127 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:20,880 come together 128 00:04:24,629 --> 00:04:22,560 and perform well 129 00:04:26,469 --> 00:04:24,639 and you said with the last in the last 130 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:26,479 few hours is really joint operation 131 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:29,120 between nasa and orbital it's not just 132 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:30,960 you know one or the other 133 00:04:35,350 --> 00:04:32,639 um what are what are some of the things 134 00:04:37,189 --> 00:04:35,360 you've learned or experienced uh in 135 00:04:39,350 --> 00:04:37,199 joint training with orbital i mean has 136 00:04:42,230 --> 00:04:39,360 it been vastly different 137 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:42,240 say from training for an atv or an htv 138 00:04:46,550 --> 00:04:44,400 international partner vastly different 139 00:04:47,749 --> 00:04:46,560 from training for spacex 140 00:04:51,670 --> 00:04:47,759 similar 141 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:51,680 that i saw was that you know orbital had 142 00:04:55,350 --> 00:04:53,600 a certain way of operating 143 00:04:56,870 --> 00:04:55,360 they've operated satellites for years 144 00:04:58,469 --> 00:04:56,880 you know in-house 145 00:05:01,110 --> 00:04:58,479 but then you bring the nasa team in and 146 00:05:03,590 --> 00:05:01,120 so there's a different element of of 147 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:03,600 information exchange that occurs in the 148 00:05:06,310 --> 00:05:05,120 nominal procedures 149 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:06,320 and 150 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:08,000 i think that you know the first few 151 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:09,520 simulations we did really brought out 152 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:11,039 that that's going to be a little bit of 153 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:12,720 a difficult choreography to pull all 154 00:05:17,110 --> 00:05:14,960 that together so they they worked real 155 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:17,120 hard and i think you know in the last 156 00:05:20,629 --> 00:05:18,720 few simulations we really saw it being 157 00:05:22,550 --> 00:05:20,639 very crisp and clean 158 00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:22,560 so they you know they kind of started 159 00:05:26,469 --> 00:05:24,160 off with you know what do we say and how 160 00:05:27,749 --> 00:05:26,479 do we do this and it has evolved 161 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:27,759 there's also 162 00:05:30,950 --> 00:05:29,199 jax's involved 163 00:05:33,990 --> 00:05:30,960 so we had those those guys in 164 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:34,000 simulations because orbital uses the the 165 00:05:38,230 --> 00:05:36,400 proc system in the gym to get radio 166 00:05:40,790 --> 00:05:38,240 communication with their vehicle when 167 00:05:43,110 --> 00:05:40,800 it's within range so we had 168 00:05:45,990 --> 00:05:43,120 trilateral simulation simulations with 169 00:05:48,310 --> 00:05:46,000 um with the jaxa guys and uh that just 170 00:05:50,790 --> 00:05:48,320 you know added a third element of of 171 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:50,800 complexity to it but can't make things 172 00:05:53,670 --> 00:05:51,600 easy 173 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:53,680 well it all worked out and i think that 174 00:05:57,430 --> 00:05:55,199 everybody's prepared 175 00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:57,440 okay is now in the in the training flow 176 00:06:00,950 --> 00:05:59,039 for everything is there any uh 177 00:06:02,950 --> 00:06:00,960 particular moment in this demo mission 178 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:02,960 that has received you know special focus 179 00:06:07,270 --> 00:06:05,520 required a lot of training something 180 00:06:09,270 --> 00:06:07,280 maybe that hasn't been done yet or 181 00:06:10,950 --> 00:06:09,280 because it is obviously a lot of it's 182 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:10,960 all new because it's a new vehicle but 183 00:06:15,189 --> 00:06:12,240 is there any part of the training flow 184 00:06:17,430 --> 00:06:15,199 that really you guys had to hone in on 185 00:06:19,670 --> 00:06:17,440 um i think the last two hours of the the 186 00:06:22,870 --> 00:06:19,680 rendezvous are are probably what got the 187 00:06:26,070 --> 00:06:24,150 you know that's when you know the 188 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:26,080 vehicle is getting closer and things are 189 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:27,919 getting a little bit more 190 00:06:31,510 --> 00:06:30,000 uh fast-paced 191 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:31,520 and uh 192 00:06:34,469 --> 00:06:33,039 so 193 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:34,479 i think that's you know where the crew 194 00:06:37,110 --> 00:06:35,919 gets really involved and there's a lot 195 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:37,120 of you know 196 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:38,400 once the vehicles 197 00:06:41,430 --> 00:06:40,160 you know within a a couple hundred 198 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:41,440 meters of station you know you want to 199 00:06:44,790 --> 00:06:42,880 make sure that everything goes good so 200 00:06:46,469 --> 00:06:44,800 we we certainly did that on most of the 201 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:46,479 simulations we also did some departure 202 00:06:50,629 --> 00:06:48,000 simulations but those are a little 203 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:50,639 little more easy to do than the 204 00:06:53,270 --> 00:06:52,639 really close end stuff 205 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:53,280 and 206 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:54,880 right right before this you told me you 207 00:06:58,309 --> 00:06:56,800 guys have been preparing for this you 208 00:07:00,710 --> 00:06:58,319 know for years 209 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:00,720 you and the team i've done a lot of hard 210 00:07:04,870 --> 00:07:02,800 work you guys kind of excited to finally 211 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:04,880 see it all come to fruition yeah we're 212 00:07:08,070 --> 00:07:06,160 very excited there's been a lot of 213 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:08,080 delays that have happened over the past 214 00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:09,840 couple years because of various 215 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:11,360 different things that have happened in 216 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:13,360 the vehicle development 217 00:07:15,670 --> 00:07:14,400 and uh 218 00:07:18,390 --> 00:07:15,680 it's hard to believe that it's finally 219 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:18,400 here and uh we're certainly very excited 220 00:07:23,589 --> 00:07:20,880 about it um this this week i think one 221 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:23,599 thing that comes to mind is that we do 222 00:07:27,350 --> 00:07:25,360 we also do onboard training for the crew 223 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:27,360 so the crew has a small simulator on 224 00:07:30,710 --> 00:07:29,120 board and we do various different 225 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:30,720 briefings with the crew 226 00:07:34,710 --> 00:07:32,400 and and this started this past monday 227 00:07:37,510 --> 00:07:34,720 and it goes to um 228 00:07:38,950 --> 00:07:37,520 the arrival date in a couple weeks and 229 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:38,960 it's real exciting to see that happen 230 00:07:42,150 --> 00:07:40,240 because that kind of shows you that it's 231 00:07:43,749 --> 00:07:42,160 real and it's actually going to happen 232 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:43,759 so we're we're excited to finally 233 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:46,800 finally get that part of it going and 234 00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:48,080 have a success 235 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:50,240 all right and it is a very exciting time 236 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:52,000 again wyatt smith he's our chief 237 00:07:56,070 --> 00:07:54,319 training officer for our teams down here 238 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:56,080 and for our astronauts getting ready for 239 00:07:59,830 --> 00:07:58,000 that first orbital demonstration mission 240 00:08:01,990 --> 00:07:59,840 to the international space station 241 00:08:05,029 --> 00:08:02,000 launching on september 17th grapple and 242 00:08:07,350 --> 00:08:05,039 docking on september 22nd so why thanks 243 00:08:09,350 --> 00:08:07,360 so much uh great job to you and the team 244 00:08:11,350 --> 00:08:09,360 really looking forward to watching a 245 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:11,360 successful operation know you it's in